Summary of #33 - Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore: “CO2 is entirely beneficial”

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In a YouTube video titled "#33 - Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore: “CO2 is entirely beneficial”," former Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore discusses the many benefits of CO2 for plant and animal life on Earth, arguing that it is entirely beneficial. Moore highlights the importance of fire, shelter, and clothing in allowing humans to adapt to different climates, noting that the temperature range most conducive to life is that which is free of frost, making tropical areas the most diverse. He also points out that the increase in carbon dioxide is not going to cause the human race to be reduced to a few scavenging lots huddled around the Arctic Circle ruled by brutal warlords, as advertised by some sources. Moore argues that the Net Zero ideology is not feasible and advocates for nuclear energy as one of the safest technologies ever invented, expressing frustration that opposition to nuclear energy in the West continues despite its proven safety and reliability.

00:00:00 In this section, Patrick Moore provides an introduction to himself, describing his upbringing in a remote, pristine, and sparsely populated area on the northwest coast of Vancouver Island. Despite his isolated upbringing, Moore had an insatiable hunger for knowledge, which was piqued by the world atlas his mother gave him at age five and the entire set of books of knowledge he received at age twelve. His interest in science began in earnest in high school, when he became fascinated by Bertrand Russell's essays on individual freedoms versus societal control.
00:05:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses his background in ecological botany and the importance of considering the earth's history when discussing current climate change issues. He explains that the current period we are in is one of the coldest in the last billion years and is part of the Pleistocene Ice Age. Moore argues that warmth is the friend of life and that the human species is a tropical species that evolved at the equator. He also notes that the Sahara was green and inhabited during a warmer period, highlighting the adaptability of humans to different climates.
00:10:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses the importance of fire, shelter, and clothing in allowing humans to migrate and form civilizations in different parts of the world. He argues that the ability to adapt to colder climates through these advancements is a primary reason to question the idea that the Earth is getting too hot. Additionally, he explains that the temperature range most conducive to life is that which is free of frost, making tropical areas the most diverse. Moore also notes that approximately half of the Earth's latitude is not conducive to life unless it has adapted to be frost resistant.
00:15:00 In this section, Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore discusses the ways in which plants have adapted to withstand frost, such as dying back or keeping their needles over the winter. He also describes an interesting observation he made about the scarcity of trees in certain parts of the Aleutian Islands being due to a lack of seed propagation caused by the temperature difference between summer and winter being too small. Furthermore, Moore explains the concept of "The Greening of the Earth" by CO2 and emphasizes that the carbon emitted by burning fossil fuels was originally in the atmosphere and used by plants to create the fossil fuels. Therefore, returning it to the atmosphere doesn't create anything new, but rather restores what was once there and necessary for life on Earth.
00:20:00 In this section, Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore states that CO2 is entirely beneficial and that our emissions of CO2 are entirely beneficial. He argues that there is nothing wrong with putting some CO2 back into the atmosphere, which would green the earth and increase productivity. He claims that CO2 is the most important chemical in the formula of life, along with others. Moore also discusses the importance of carbon as the progenitor of life and the unique position of carbon in the periodic table of elements. He argues that a higher concentration of CO2 is not harmful to animal life as long as there is enough oxygen in the atmosphere.
00:25:00 In this section of the interview, Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, discusses the importance of CO2 to all life on Earth. CO2 is the primary food for plants, and as a byproduct of photosynthesis, they emit oxygen which is vital to animal life. The CO2 in our atmosphere came from the Earth's volcanic eruptions and has been present in different concentrations throughout Earth's history. Moore argues that the optimum CO2 level for life is around 1500-2000 PPM and emphasizes the importance of not confusing nuclear energy with nuclear weapons.
00:30:00 In this section, Patrick Moore, co-founder of Greenpeace, explains that the increase of carbon dioxide is actually beneficial to the planet. He points to the fact that throughout most of Earth's history, it has warmed more toward the poles and not at the equator. As the Earth warms, vegetation grows on the Canadian Arctic Islands, as evidenced by the fossils of giant camels roaming the forests. Moore argues that a two-degree increase in temperature would not even eliminate the Antarctic ice cap, which began to freeze 30 million years ago long before the Arctic started freezing. He believes that the increase in carbon dioxide is not going to cause the human race to be reduced to a few scavenging lots huddled around the Arctic Circle ruled by brutal warlords, as advertised by some sources.
00:35:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses the impact of temperature increase on life on Earth. While some life forms may negatively be affected by a two-degree increase, most life would benefit greatly as it would allow for forests and agriculture to expand. He gives the example of the polar bear who evolved due to the Earth cooling and the ice sheet expanding. He also points out that we've had two major extinctions in the past, the dinosaur extinction and Permian Extinction, but we don't know the cause of Permian extinction, and trying to attribute that extinction to CO2 emission is just an assumption.
00:40:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses the myth that the polar bear population is under threat due to the disappearing Arctic summer ice. He explains that polar bears don't go out on the ice in the summer, but in the winter, when the Arctic Ocean is completely frozen over. He adds that the Arctic Ocean being partly open in the summer is actually beneficial to polar bears because it causes plankton to grow in the sea, and they come onto land in the summer and forage as best they can for berries and will eat almost anything. The whole thing about polar bears going extinct due to climate change is a total lie, according to Moore. In fact, the polar bear population has grown from somewhere between five and eight thousand in 1973 when the treaty was passed, to somewhere between thirty and fifty thousand now.
00:45:00 In this section, Patrick Moore argues that many of the large parks people enjoy today across Europe had less than 10% forested areas during the Industrial Revolution since all energy came from burning wood. However, silviculture emerged during this era to learn how to breed and grow trees since forests weren't providing enough wood. Today, native trees and forests have increased to nearly five times the forested area in Europe since the industrial era with 43% of Europe covered in forested areas. Reforestation is also occurring across China and India, thereby reducing concerns worldwide for deforestation. Using trees for products is not necessarily opposed, especially since the wood used is not suitable for making lumber or other applications that yield more value. Therefore, though people are campaigning against deforestation, industries using wood sustainably would only use woods that that not used for other products anyway.
00:50:00 In this section, former Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore argues against the feasibility of the Net Zero ideology. He points out the impracticality of wind and solar energy as reliable sources as they only work a fraction of the time, leading to an excess in installed capacity, and the necessary backup batteries add significant additional cost. Moore states that there will be a shortage of minerals to sustain the necessary amount of EV batteries needed, and producing increased amounts of electricity with solar and wind would lead to even more of a worldwide mineral shortage. He says the idea of EVs being Net Zero is unreasonable as manufacturing cars and batteries involves the use of significant energy and minerals.
00:55:00 In this section, Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore discusses his experience at the Paris climate agreement and his bet that global CO2 emissions would be higher in 2025 than they were in 2015. He also advocates for nuclear energy as the solution, calling it one of the safest technologies ever invented. However, he expresses frustration that opposition to nuclear energy in the West continues despite its proven safety and reliability, while countries like Russia, India, and China actively pursue it. Moore considers those who oppose nuclear energy to be fools who lack knowledge of the technology.

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In this video, Patrick Moore discusses the benefits of hydroelectric power and nuclear energy, arguing that they are better than wind and solar power, which he believes are only viable due to subsidies and mandates. He advocates for a gradual reduction of fossil fuel usage and increased use of nuclear energy to power large cargo ships, oil tankers, trains, and other machinery. Moore also challenges the idea that CO2 is a dangerous pollutant, pointing out that it is necessary for life on Earth. He discusses the true meaning behind the term "organic" and how it relates to the marketing of climate change, and asserts that calling someone a science denier when they are actually a scientist studying climate is a tactic used by extremists throughout history. Moore believes that focusing on preserving local food production methods and promoting nuclear energy is the best way to achieve a sustainable future.

01:00:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses the dangers of nuclear plants and how they can be avoided through proper design and safety measures. He also refutes the idea that wind and solar power can fully power the Earth, stating that they are only economically viable due to subsidies and mandates. Instead, he argues that we should recognize the benefits of hydroelectric power and focus on preserving local food production methods for a more sustainable future. He also addresses the misleading notion that CO2 is a dangerous pollutant, pointing out that it is actually necessary for life on Earth.
01:05:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses the benefits of hydroelectricity and nuclear energy. While he acknowledges that hydroelectricity may not be feasible in all geographies and situations, he believes it is a great renewable resource, and he points out that dams have been built to help fish migration. For energy needs that require mobility, such as air travel and heavy machinery, fossil fuels such as oil and gas are necessary; however, Moore advocates for the gradual reduction of fossil fuel usage and increased nuclear energy, which runs stationary steel mills and furnaces, as well as large buildings. Moore argues that countries like Russia and six other countries have created nuclear navies with submarines running for 60 years underwater, proving the safety and effectiveness of nuclear energy.
01:10:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses the feasibility of using nuclear energy to power large cargo ships, oil tankers, trains, and other machinery. He explains that there are already hundreds of nuclear plants operating every day, operated by trained individuals. Moore believes that if we wanted to, we could eliminate around 70% of fossil fuels using nuclear energy in roughly 50 years. He also argues that promoting wind, solar, and battery power is pointless and won't work, and instead advocates for the use of nuclear energy, which he believes is a better policy. Lastly, Moore discusses his book, Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom, which challenges the validity of scare stories around invisible things such as CO2 and GMOs.
01:15:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses the true meaning behind the term "organic" and how it relates to the marketing of climate change. He points out that the meaning of "organic" is related to the chemistry of carbon, which is the chemistry of life itself. However, in today's market, the term "organic" has become something that is stamped on products in a supermarket rather than based on real scientific knowledge. He also talks about how polar bears and coral reefs have become strong icons associated with climate change but suggests that these are mainly used for marketing purposes. He further argues that people who use terms like "carbon pollution" or "climate denier" should be ignored as it shows a lack of scientific knowledge and is just name-calling.
01:20:00 In this section, Patrick Moore discusses the cycles of climate change that have been occurring for millions of years, and how we are currently in one of the coldest periods in the last 250 million years. He mentions that the idea of the temperature rising by a degree or two being catastrophic is completely ridiculous, as it will have a far worse effect if the temperature goes down. He also notes that calling someone a science denier when they are actually a scientist studying climate and understand a great deal about it is beyond the pale, and is just projecting one's own faults on the other, which is a tactic that has been used throughout history by extremists.