Summary of Entrevista en "A Dos Voces" con Marcelo Bonelli y Edgardo Alfano por TN 24/08/2022

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In this video, Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano discuss the current political situation in Argentina. Bonelli criticizes the government's handling of the economy and the justice system, while Alfano defends the government's record. The two also discuss the recent death of Luciano Kirchner, with Bonelli saying that there is no proof of foul play and Alfano agreeing that the priority now is to focus on the presidency of Alberto Fernandez.

  • 00:00:00 Alberto Fernández, president of Argentina, discusses the current political climate in Argentina and the possible implications of an amnesty for former President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner. He also speaks about the country's strong economy and the jobs market.
  • 00:05:00 The interviewer, Marcelo Bonelli, discusses the decline in the quality of Argentina's judicial system and Cristina Kirchner's alleged involvement in it. Bonelli references a book he wrote in which he criticizes former President Cristina Kirchner's decision to have her son, Maximiliano Kirchner, prosecuted. Bonelli emphasizes that citizens have a right to criticize their government, and that as President, Cristina Kirchner is just as obligated to take responsibility for what happens below her as any other official. Bonelli also points out that the weakness of Kirchner's argument suggests she knew what she was doing when she decided not to answer the charges against her.
  • 00:10:00 In this interview, Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano discuss the allegations of an Argentinian association with Ilícito, and the problems with prosecuting crimes this way. Marcelo Bonelli specifically points out that the president's agreement to invest in the group was illegal, and that Luciana Kirchner should have been responsible for overseeing the project. Cristina Kirchner has been very critical of José López in her recent speeches, accusing him of not doing enough to help her husband during his time in office.
  • 00:15:00 In this interview, Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano discuss the corruption investigation involving former President Néstor Kirchner and his wife, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner. They both believe that Kirchner is innocent and that what is being questioned is the same thing as questioning Kirchner's work doing construction projects with someone who had no advantage because Lázaro Báez was not able to do any construction projects before Kirchner took office. They also discuss equality, with Bonelli noting that an employee of a bank is also an employee of a government office, and that Christina expressed her disappointment with José López during her time as president. Alfano notes that Cristina was also persecuted during the Kirchners' administrations, and that he understands her decision to include a statement he made in her damage suit in her trial testimony. He goes on to say that he is not in agreement with those who are pushing for Cristina to be impeached, and that he has been teaching law for over 30 years, which gives him the right to speak his mind. He also shares his sadness over the current state of the justice system, and says that he does not share the opinion that the media is driving
  • 00:20:00 On August 24, 2022, Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano, two journalists, interviewed each other about the ongoing judicial process against former President Cristina Kirchner. Bonelli emphasized that the court should consider whether Kirchner's critic, who is also a lawyer, is correct in thinking that the tribunal might have been wrong to deny her appeal earlier in the year. Alfano responded that the court's lack of seriousness in the case is astonishing, and he encourages Kirchner's supporters to stay peaceful during the trial. Bonelli's son, a judge who was removed from his post in 1976 by military dictatorship, shares Bonelli's view that the judicial system should be truly independent and that judges' wealth should be transparent.
  • 00:25:00 In this interview, Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano discuss Argentina's recent progress in fighting corruption, and how they plan to continue the fight. Bonelli also discusses his fear that recent protests might turn violent, and how the government is working to address this. Alfano shares his thoughts on the need for a large and peaceful mobilization in defense of democracy and human rights.
  • 00:30:00 The video interviews Marcelo Bonelli, a lawyer, and Edgardo Alfano, a politician, about the death of Luciano Kirchner. Bonelli says that up to this point, there has been no proof of another motive for Kirchner's death. He hopes that justice will rein in the situation and that Kirchner's policies will be revisited. Alfano agrees, and says that what is most important right now is Alberto Fernandez' presidency. He also says that, although the current administration has faced some challenges, overall it has been successful. He credits Sergio Massa with bringing some much-needed calm to the markets.
  • 00:35:00 In the interview, Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano discuss Argentina's economy and inflation. Bonelli explains that the country's problems with inflation and unemployment date back several years, and that the recent pandemics have only made the situation worse. Alfano comments that the government has not been able to address the underlying problems, and that the recent inflation is likely the result of abuses by some powerful individuals.
  • 00:40:00 The interviewer, TN 24/08/2022, talks about how the issue of inequality is a problem, and how the current situation does not feel like real income growth because of the high prices and wage hikes. He also talks about his thoughts on the recently announced re-election bid of Alberto Miguel Miguel Pesce, and how he believes that the public needs to be more vocal when it comes to justice being denied. He also mentions his plans to appoint a woman to the vice presidency, and how he wants to stay close to Christian Falcón.
  • 00:45:00 The video discusses the political situation in Argentina, with Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano discussing Bonelli's priorities. Bonelli says that his top priority is to make sure that politics is carried out in a way that benefits the majority of Argentinians, and that he will do whatever it takes to achieve this. He also recalls how some people read his decision to fight with Cristina Fernández as a sign of cowardice, and that he is actually a tough guy who is not afraid to face challenges. Alfano shares his opinion that there is a problem with Argentine institutions because Bonelli and Fernández do not get along well. This creates an obstacle to the distribution of power, as there are differing opinions within the Frente Amplio. Alfano also says that there is an institutional problem because Bonelli and Fernández do not get along, as they are not unified in their thinking. Bonelli shares his opinion that the problem is that we are all working towards the same goal, but we have different ways of approaching it. Alfano asks Bonelli what he thinks about the current situation, and Bonelli responds that he thinks it is a mess. He goes on to say that he would have liked to have
  • 00:50:00 Interviewees Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano discuss the difficult situation Argentina is in due to the pandemic and the efforts the country has made to cope with it. Bonelli emphasizes the importance of the government's efforts to help those most vulnerable, and emphasizes Argentina's progress in terms of social welfare policies in the face of inflation. Alfano agrees, noting that the system of retirement pensions, which were increased in response to the inflationary spike of the late 2000s, are now losing value.
  • 00:55:00 The video interviews Marcelo Bonelli and Edgardo Alfano, who are direct opponents of each other and there are media outlets that are more aligned with the government's perspective, but I wanted to be here today. First, though, I want to say that I appreciate being here because I think there are a lot of Argentines who need to hear the real problem with the justice system that this name is currently suffering under - Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner. But who argued this case can also suffer, any citizen. That's necessary that we take action on this issue's gravity. I want to repeat what I said when I left office in defense of Cristina: I don't know many things where I'm not in agreement with her [Cristina] idea. How is building construction being done in the north, south, and throughout Argentina being funded with public funds and having no idea how it's being done? Alberto was a disaster. Well, that's enough for today.

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