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In this section of the YouTube video "Carlos Taibo y Antonio Turiel: Foro Enciende la Tierra CajaCanarias 2019", Speakers Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the concept of the pico del petroleo and the likelihood of a future energy collapse. They argue that we have already passed the year and now face the consequences of our energy consumption without regard for conservation and that theolutions rely on changing our ways of thinking about the environment and sustainability. The video also discusses the production and consumption of petroleum and its impact on the economy and social stability of the planet. The speakers contend that a change in the economic system is necessary to adapt to a situation of decreasing resources and consider the concept of resilency as a way to mitigate the effects of the inevitable collapse of the current system.

00:00:00 In this section, speakers Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the upcoming collapse and its effects on the world in the 21st century. They argue that the collapse is not a recent phenomenon, and that previous civilizations, such as the Roman Empire, have already experienced it in the past. They also mention that disasters such as the 2010 Icelandic volcanic eruption can have devastating effects on the economy, even across the globe. The speakers argue that addressing this situation requires a collaborative effort from scientists, politicians and ordinary people. They also emphasize the need for a global conversation about the potential effects of the collapse and the strategies that can mitigate its impact. They conclude by highlighting the importance of combining scientific expertise, political knowledge, and anecdotes from everyday life to better understand the issue and to prepare for possible solutions.
00:05:00 In this section, the video discusses the topic of the pico del petróleo and the likelihood of a future energy collapse. Antonio Turiel, one of the prolific authors on the theory of the pico del petróleo, argues that we have already passed the year and now face the consequences of our energy usage without regard for the importance of conservation. They discussed the limitations imposed by nature on human activity and the need for education and awareness to mitigate the impact. The discussion then moves to the specific issue of petroleum, with the acknowledgment that its production and consumption have led to environmental problems, including climate change. Turiel argues that the fate of the petroleum industry and its impact on the economy and social stability of the planet is a pressing concern.
00:10:00 In this section, Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the current state of the petroleum industry and the challenges it faces. They note that despite the increasing importance of non-conventional hydrocarbons such as heavy oils from Canada and Venezuela, the production of petroleum also depends on water and resources that are often scarce and have low profitability. They argue that these problems, combined with the impending peak in oil prices predicted by experts, could lead to a serious economic and social collapse. Additionally, they point out the declining production of diesel, which is a crucial component for the transportation and heavy machinery sectors, and anticipate a decline in the use of such fuels due to their increasing cost and environmental concerns. They also discuss the controversy surrounding the use of natural gas and the limits of energy sources derived from fossil fuels.
00:15:00 In this section, Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the problem of the decline in non-renewable energy sources. Petroleum, coal, and uranium have been the dominant energy sources for decades, and their production is declining rapidly. While gas is still being extracted, it is not a sustainable solution. The speakers argue that a change in the economic system is necessary to adapt to a situation of decreasing resources. They also mention the concept of resiliency as a way to mitigate the effects of the inevitable collapse of the current system.
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00:25:00 In this section, Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the causes of collapse, which are not yet known, and their consequences in the world. Based on their knowledge, they suggest a few key factors that will define the next 50 years. The first factor is the reduction of energy supply, which they predict will lead to the end of the automobile society and the global economy. The second factor is a sudden shock that will affect centralized institutions, such as states, multi-national corporations, and armed forces. The third factor is the impact on rural areas, which will have fewer consequences but will benefit from their traditional and sustainable ways of living. They also note that the model of societies that prioritizes speed and efficiency will inevitably collapse, leading to a reduction in population planetary. They also mention a prediction by Carlos for two environmental data that indicate the need for critical thinking: the first is that humanity will not be able to find new sources of energy, and the second is that Russian President Putin will announce the discovery of a massive hydrocarbon deposit in the Arctic Sea, which will increase the demand for energy.
00:30:00 In this section, the speakers discuss the concept of collapse and its potential impact on society. They argue that globalization will inevitably lead to a simplification of society's complexity on a global scale, due to the limited availability of resources such as energy, water, and others. They also mention the need to consider alternative energy sources, such as non-energy resources like cobalt and others. The speakers briefly discuss the genesis of global collapse and the impact of globalism on the key material resources and the consequences of various global disasters such as the collapse of the Roman Empire and the potential impact of global collapse on the environment, such as climate change and the depletion of energy and other resources.
00:35:00 In this section of the video, speakers Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the negative effects that extractive industries have on the environment, particularly on water resources. They note that many industries, including the oil and gas industry, use large amounts of water and can cause contamination through the release of pollutants. The speakers also discuss the impacts of climate change, which can further exacerbate these problems by leading to drought and a reduction in water resources. They suggest that the solution to these issues is to build desalination plants, despite the energy consumption and other challenges involved, as they may ultimately lead to war over water resources.
00:40:00 In this section, the speakers discuss the concept of ecofascism and its potential implications for society. They argue that the current approaches to managing natural resources and addressing issues like climate change are insufficient and could lead to devastating consequences. They also point out that some movements promoting sustainable living are being co-opted by powerful actors for their own benefit, which could lead to a dystopian future. The speakers use historical examples, such as Nazi Germany's use of environmental concerns in its propaganda, to illustrate the potential for such a scenario. They emphasize the need for individuals and communities to take action to create a more just and sustainable future.
00:45:00 In this section of the video, the speaker is discussing the potential future of the world after a collapse of the current systems. He argues that the current situation requires a new approach to economics and politics. He suggests that we need to focus on sustainable development and decentralized decision-making, rather than relying on the traditional capitalist model of growth and control. The speaker notes that there is ongoing debate about what specifically should be done to create a more just and equitable society, but he believes that it is essential that we prioritize consultation and participatory decision-making processes. Additionally, the speaker argues that the spread of propaganda and misinformation is one of the biggest challenges facing humanity today, and that we need to take action to counteract this.
00:50:00 In this section of the YouTube video titled "Carlos Taibo y Antonio Turiel: Foro Enciende la Tierra CajaCanarias 2019", the speakers discuss the concept of collapse. They mention that collapse is inevitable to some extent and that the best course of action is to try to accelerate it in a controlled and logical manner. They also talk about the role of time in accelerating the collapse and how the collapse is specific to each individual. The speakers suggest that the collapse is an opportunity to experiment and develop new ways of living and thinking, but that it is important to do so in a way that is not too disruptive to society. They also mention the importance of working together to federate autonomous spaces and increase their dimensions, in order to find a new balance in society.
00:55:00 This excerpt discusses the potential of an immediate energy crisis in 2019, with Spain being critical in the crisis due to its dependence on oil imports from Mexico. This clip stems from a conference in 2019 that discussed various topics related to the Earth's cratering process, energy levels, and class medias, among other issues. The speaker argues that there is a growing distraction that prevents people from realizing the magnitude of the energy crisis and its impact on society. The discussion briefly touches on the collapse of the global economy, the negative impact of excess energy on the environment, and the difficulty of identifying the problem with the present trends. The video encourages collaboration and dialogue to better understand the phenomenon and its potential consequences. The speaker proceeds to answer a question from the audience, in which they further explore the topic of nuclear fusion and its feasibility.

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In this section of the YouTube video "Carlos Taibo y Antonio Turiel: Foro Enciende la Tierra CajaCanarias 2019", the speakers discuss various topics related to energy and sustainability. They argue that the focus should be on renewable energy sources such as solar or wind power, as 80% of energy consumption is non-electric. They also emphasize the importance of energy efficiency in consumption and production processes and how it is not compatible with electricity. The speakers criticize technology as being a form of technology that becomes tired, referring to it as a "techno-utopia." They emphasize that energy efficiency is essential in today's society and that the energy of fusion is not the solution. In another section of the video, the speakers discuss the issue of excessive use of technology and energy and its impact on the environment. They argue that the problem lies not in the technology itself, but in the way it is being used, particularly in the economic system. They also touch on the concept of sustainability and the need for individuals and societies to be more mindful of their use of resources, while still harnessing their ingenuity in a responsible manner. They discuss the implications of continued growth on a planet with limited resources. The speakers also discuss "ecological equilibrium" and how it has been altered due to various factors, including regional climate changes and human activity. They argue that the current situation requires a more urgent and proactive approach to address the issues at hand, emphasizing the importance of taking action to prevent further collapse. They also touch upon the concept of "ecological footprint" and how it relates to the sustainability of current economic activities. They conclude by emphasizing the need for islands like Canarias to focus on their self-sufficiency and reduce their dependence on external resources. In another section of the video, Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the problems with the current agricultural industry and the importance of finding a sustainable alternative. They mention the negative impact that the consumption of fossil fuels has on the environment and the importance of securing sustainable sources of energy. The speakers also discuss the political and economic factors that affect the agricultural industry and the need to address these issues in order to promote sustainability. Overall, the speakers emphasize the need for a change in approach to energy and conservation policies, and the importance of governments and institutions taking action to address the issues of declining resources. They also discuss the Green New Deal initiative and other similar proposals, highlighting the importance of societal awareness and responsible consumption and production practices in promoting sustainability.

01:00:00 In this section, the speakers discuss the potential of fusion energy and its limitations. They argue that the focus should be on renewable energy sources such as solar or wind power, as 80% of energy consumption is non-electric. They also mention the importance of energy efficiency in consumption and production processes and how it is not compatible with electricity. The speakers criticize the technology as being a form of technology that becomes tired, referring to it as a "techno-utopia." Finally, they emphasize that energy efficiency is essential in today's society and that the energy of fusion is not the solution.
01:05:00 In this section of the transcript excerpt, the speakers discuss the issue of the excessive use of technology and energy, and the impact it is having on the environment. They argue that the problem lies not in the technology itself, but in the way it is being used, particularly in the economic system. They also touch on the concept of sustainability and the need for individuals and societies to be more mindful of their use of resources, while still harnessing their ingenuity in a responsible manner. The speakers also discussed the implication of continued growth on a planet with limited resources.
01:10:00 In this section, Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the "ecological equilibrium" and how it has been altered due to various factors, including regional climate changes and human activity. They argue that the current situation requires a more urgent and proactive approach to address the issues at hand, emphasizing the importance of taking action to prevent further collapse. They also touch upon the concept of "ecological footprint" and how it relates to the sustainability of current economic activities. They conclude by emphasizing the need for islands like Canarias to focus on their self-sufficiency and reduce their dependence on external resources.
01:15:00 In this section of the transcript, Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the problems with the current agricultural industry and the importance of finding a sustainable alternative. They mention the negative impact that the consumption of fossil fuels, such as oil and natural gas, has on the environment and the importance of securing sustainable sources of energy.
01:20:00 The transcript excerpt discusses the possibility of solutions to problems that seem intractable coming from countries in the south with less materialistic and competitive cultures. The speaker pl mentions that federalist democratic processes in Chiapas, Mexico, and in Syria's Kurdish region illustrate how such an approach could work. Additionally, the speaker discusses the impact of the collapse of the internet in extreme apocalyptic scenarios and the dependence on information systems and internet. Finally, the speaker briefly talks about a personal experience of needing electricity and the internet for various optimizations and how they have created dependencies on these systems.
01:25:00 In this section of the YouTube video titled "Carlos Taibo y Antonio Turiel: Foro Enciende la Tierra CajaCanarias 2019", thespeakers discuss the issue of energy and how it is being addressed by politicians and institutions around the world. They mention that even though there have been efforts to address this issue for over 30 years, it is only in the last few years that measures have been taken to address the problem of declining resources. The speakers also mention that the problem of declining resources is not just limited to energy, but also extends to other areas such as water and food. They discuss the importance of energy conservation and the role of government and institutions in implementing policies to limit the use of energy. The speakers also mention that the ahorro y la eficencia no son suficientes en una sociedad orientada hacia el consumo y la producción y que es necesario un ahorro energético. They also discuss the issue of nuclear energy and its role in addressing the problem of declining resources. The speakers mention the example of Spain's past president, Felipe González, who recognized the need for the conservation of resources and the importance of implementing policies to reduce energy consumption. They also mention the issue of the teeth of the capitalist system and how it can hinder the implementation of policies that may challenge the interests of the capital. Overall, the speakers emphasize the need for a change in approach to energy and conservation policies, and the importance of governments and institutions taking action to address the issues of declining resources.
01:30:00 In this section of the YouTube video, Carlos Taibo and Antonio Turiel discuss the Green New Deal initiative and other similar proposals. They start by acknowledging the difficulty in accepting these types of initiatives because people may analyze them negatively. They then move on to the proposal that the Green New Deal, presented by Senator Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, is not well-thought-out and fails to criticize capitalism as deeply as it should. However, they do agree that the proposal takes a valuable step towards promoting environmental protection. They also point out that the Green New Deal initiative is part of the efforts to rebuild Puerto Rico after the devastation caused by Hurricane Maria.
01:35:00 Carlos Taibo y Antonio Turiel discuss resilience, sustainable financiating options, and the importance of early action in the context of resource depletion and population in Canary Islands. They highlight the prevalent issues of water scarcity and the potential impact of decreasing population, emphasizing the importance of optimizing existing resources through efficient consumption and utilizing alternative energy sources. They urge for the adoption of policies and practices managed responsibly from a libertarian perspective to address the systemic issue of resource depletion, emphasizing the need for societal awareness of the reigning hierarchies' dynamics to make informed decisions. They also suggest that the implementation of decreasing population policies may not be the best approach, as potential issues with technical implementation arise. They question the feasibility of decreasing population and point out that economic and developmental factors heavily influence societal choices and actions.
01:40:00 In this section of the video, Amelia Valcarcel is announced as one of the guests for the 8 o'clock event. The moderator, Ana Hardisson, expresses excitement for the event and encourages the audience to participate and ask questions.