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The video discusses the idea that liberalism is based on a fallacy and that traditional Islam should be liberalized in order to be more in line with modern values. The presenter argues that liberalism is prevalent in the Western world today, while traditional Islam is still prevalent in the Middle East. They also discuss the idea of colonialism and Islamic imperialism and how they are not the same thing. Finally, the presenter argues that liberalism is based on a hypothesis, which is not supported by evidence.

  • 00:00:00 This video discusses the importance of liberalizing Islam in order to make it more compatible with modern values and human rights. Fahad Qureshi, the chair of this debate, argues that traditional Islam needs to be updated in order to be more compatible with modern society. The organization Islam Net is raising funds to establish a Norwegian Dawa center in order to help reconnect young Muslims with Allah subhanaw taala.
  • 00:05:00 Dr. Large Lula is a philosopher and associate professor at Oslo Metropolitan University. He has a doctorate in philosophy and is a pro-Palestinian and pro-Islamic individual. He is not the kind of person who would spread Islamophobic theories or fabrications about Islam and Muslims.
  • 00:10:00 This video is a debate between Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule about whether or not traditional Islam needs to be liberalized. Gule argues that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to take it in a more progressive direction, while Hijab argues that there are internal resources within traditional Islam that can be utilized to develop more progressive interpretations of Islam.
  • 00:15:00 The speaker discusses what Islam is and traditional Islam, highlighting that while they may have similar elements, there is still a lot of variation in interpretation. He goes on to say that reform of Islam should entail liberalization, as this is the majority view within the Islamic world.
  • 00:20:00 The traditional Islamic beliefs of Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule differ in many ways, with Hijab arguing that the Quran and Sunnah need to be interpreted literally, while Gule believes that traditional Islamic values and practices can be integrated with modernity. The disagreement between the two men on Islamic interpretation divides Muslims into different camps, with Hijab representing a more literalist view, while Gule represents a more tolerant and integrated approach.
  • 00:25:00 The video discusses the need for traditional Islam to be liberalized in order to be more compatible with modern values, including human rights and democracy. The speaker advocates for a process of liberalization that is based on recognition of human dignity and worth of every human being, with a focus on freedom of religion for everyone. If this process were to be steered by a free and liberal practice inspired by Masla ha, it would lead to a gradual reduction in segregation of the sexes, tolerance for differences within the Muslim community, acceptance of non-believers, marriage across religions, freedom of religion for children, acceptance of sexual minorities, and respect for fully freedom of expression. Finally, there would be acceptance of critique of Islam, with the right to a vigorous defense.
  • 00:30:00 The video discusses the differences between Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule on the topic of traditional Islam needing to be liberalized. Hijab believes that traditional Islam can be more liberal, while Gule believes that traditional Islam should be more strict. Gule also argues that the definition of "traditional Islam" is influenced by political and social outcomes, while Hijab says that there is a variety of traditions within Islam. Finally, the video discusses the history of liberalism and how it is connected to traditional Islam.
  • 00:35:00 Mohammed Hijab argues that liberalism is a false morality based on a prime model state of nature and a barter system, which does not account for human rights. He also points out that liberalism is based on a genetic fallacy and has been followed by many of the greatest thinkers in history, including John Locke and Immanuel Kant.
  • 00:40:00 Mohammed Hijab argues that liberalization of Islamic law is possible and that traditional Islam does not condone death penalty outcomes for apostasy. Lars Gule counters that liberalism does not allow for racism, colonialism, and tyranny, and that Islamic principles do not allow for such outcomes.
  • 00:45:00 The speaker argues that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to be compatible with modern democracy. He provides historical examples of liberal regimes that have committed genocide, and argues that these examples are evidence that liberalism does not produce non-death penalty outcomes. He also argues that liberalism is contradictory, and that if a Muslim wants to use their religious beliefs to influence policy, that is not allowed by secularity.
  • 00:50:00 Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule debate liberalism vs. traditional Islam. Hijab argues that liberalism is based on false premises and that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to harmonize with modernity. Gule counters that liberalism is based on human rights and individual liberty, two values that are intrinsic to traditional Islam. Mohammed Hijab argues that liberalism is based on false premises, and that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to harmonize with modernity. Lars Gule counters that liberalism is based on human rights and individual liberty, two values that are intrinsic to traditional Islam. Gule concludes that liberalism is the best way to live, and that Mohammed Hijab is mistaken in his assumptions about the traditions of both liberalism and traditional Islam.
  • 00:55:00 The video discusses the idea that liberalism is based on a fallacy and that traditional Islam should be liberalized in order to be more in line with modern values. The presenter argues that liberalism is prevalent in the Western world today, while traditional Islam is still prevalent in the Middle East. They also discuss the idea of colonialism and Islamic imperialism and how they are not the same thing. Finally, the presenter argues that liberalism is based on a hypothesis, which is not supported by evidence.

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In the YouTube video "FULL DEBATE! Does Traditional Islam Need to be Liberalized - Mohammed Hijab VS Lars Gule," Hijab and Gule debate the morality of traditional Islam. Gule argues that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to accommodate the modern world, while Hijab maintains that traditional Islam is based on individual conscience and should not be changed for the sake of other cultures. The discussion becomes contentious, with Gule accusing Hijab of being racist and elitist, and Hijab accusing Gule of being ignorant of Islamic tradition. Ultimately, the two agree to disagree on the issue.

  • 01:00:00 Mohammed Hijab provides a rebuttal to Lars Gule'sargument that liberalism needs to be liberalized, stating that it is impossible to argue from first principles because one needs a systemic perspective to understand human rights. He also points out that liberalism is a birthchild of liberalism and human rights promotion is a birthchild of strictness.
  • 01:05:00 In this YouTube video, Mohammed Hijab argues that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to be more in line with modern liberalism. He also says that feminism is not the same as liberalism, and that racism is a problem in the Middle East. Lars Gule challenges Hijab on these points, pointing out that traditional Islam does not allow for women to be equal to men. Gule also argues that Islamic colonialism is wrong, and that if a neighbor is about to take over, it is morally acceptable to attack them.
  • 01:10:00 In this YouTube video, Mohammed Hijab, a Muslim scholar, argues that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to be equal to other religions. Dr. Dale Lodge, a Christian scholar, responds that traditional Islam is not equal to other religions because people are born with different physical abilities. This discussion leads to a discussion of human dignity and worth, which Muslims believe are equal for everyone, regardless of their religious beliefs.
  • 01:15:00 In this YouTube video, Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule debate whether traditional Islam needs to be liberalized. Hijab says that from an Islamic perspective, all children are born equal in terms of dignity and worth. Gule agrees that from an Islamic perspective, all children are born equal, but argues that from an empirical perspective, we have good evidence to show that we are born believing in a higher power. Gule also points out that from a metaphysical perspective, we can't prove that we're equal, but we can thank Allah for making us equal in our spiritual worth.
  • 01:20:00 The speaker discusses the difference of opinion among Muslim scholars regarding the theory of divine command, and points out that this theory is used by some Muslims to justify their views on social issues, such as colonialism. He goes on to say that there is a discussion among Muslim scholars about the theory, but that he believes a combination of views would be more accurate.
  • 01:25:00 The speaker discusses the challenges of reconciling traditional Islamic morality with modern human rights values. They discuss the case of a country in which a referendum determined that amputation as a punishment for thieves should be implemented. The speaker argues that this is not compatible with human rights values and should not be done.
  • 01:30:00 The video discusses traditional Islam's views on human dignity and human worth, and how these views can conflict with liberal views on human rights. Dr. Gouda argues that, because slavery, colonialism, and racism are all possible in a liberal state, traditional Islam cannot be considered a legitimate source of human rights.
  • 01:35:00 The video discusses a debate between Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule regarding traditional Islam's need to be liberalized. Gule argues that the idea is conceivable, but is not implemented due to human rights violations happening all over the world. Hijab argues that the ideals of human rights should be defended even if the majority disagrees with a practice.
  • 01:40:00 Dr. Gula discusses the human rights of Muslims and how they differ from those of liberalists. He argues that if Muslims were to be deported on the basis of their human rights, it would be wrong because of the reality of human rights.
  • 01:45:00 The traditional interpretation of Islam needs to be liberalized in order to be compatible with human rights laws, according to one of the participants in the debate. However, there is no guarantee that the liberalization will be accepted by all Muslims.
  • 01:50:00 The video discusses the issue of traditional Islam needing to be liberalized, with Mohammed Hijab arguing that it doesn't have to be separate and that it should be based on human rights. Dr. Lodge argues that there are instances where traditional Islamic values do not align with human rights, and that it is important to define boundaries.
  • 01:55:00 Mohammed Hijab, a Muslim dissenter, and Lars Gule, a secular humanist, debate the morality of traditional Islam. Gule argues that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to accommodate the modern world, while Hijab maintains that traditional Islam is based on individual conscience and should not be changed for the sake of other cultures. The discussion becomes contentious, with Gule accusing Hijab of being racist and elitist, and Hijab accusing Gule of being ignorant of Islamic tradition. Ultimately, the two agree to disagree on the issue.

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In this YouTube video, Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule debate the need for traditional Islam to be liberalized. Hijab argues that it harms the people, while Gule argues that it is an empirical statement that can be investigated empirically by the science of Medicine.

  • 02:00:00 In this video, a debate is held between Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule on whether traditional Islam needs to be liberalized. Gule argues that while traditional Islam may need to be liberalized in terms of some aspects, such as sexual matters, it is ultimately divinely guided and will always be true, regardless of time and place. Hijab counters that while liberalism may be in development, atheism is not a life stance and does not constitute a religion.
  • 02:05:00 In this YouTube video, Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule debate the need for traditional Islam to be liberalized. Hijab argues that it harms the people, while Gule argues that it is an empirical statement that can be investigated empirically by the science of Medicine.
  • 02:10:00 Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule debate the need for traditional Islam to be liberalized. Gule points to cases in which traditional Islam has been too lenient with regards to punishment, while Hijab argues that a more humane system of punishment and rehabilitation is better.
  • 02:15:00 In his video, the speaker discusses the idea that there can be a need for strict Islamic law, and that traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to be able to navigate in the modern world. He argues that an emotional argument in favor of this point can be made, and that it is unfair to punish a father who throws acid on a young girl if the girl's father chooses to do the same to another person. He also mentions that a person who chooses to enter an academic institution should abide by the rules of that institution, even if they choose to hide their face.
  • 02:20:00 The speaker discusses the issue of freedom of religion for children, noting that Muslim parents should be able to teach their children what they believe is best. They also mention the freedom of non-Muslims in Western countries. The speaker argues that this freedom is not absolute, and that blind people should not be judges because they would not be able to see all the information that is presented to them.
  • 02:25:00 The speaker criticizes traditional Islam for needing to be liberalized in order to be compatible with international human rights law. They argue that it is the responsibility of parents to provide a good upbringing for their children and that children should be allowed to opt out of the religion of their parents. They also argue that circumcision should be allowed to be performed at a later age by competent adults, and that the practice should only be performed on children who are well-developed.
  • 02:30:00 The speaker discusses the idea of whether or not traditional Islam needs to be liberalized in order to be more in line with modern society. He points out that this would go against human rights, as parents have the right to choose what type of education their children receive.
  • 02:35:00 The speaker discusses the idea that human rights cannot be proven, and that definitions of human rights can change over time. They argue that despite this, it is important to try and define human rights in a meaningful way. They mention the example of sexual rights, which have changed over time and are not always based in scientific evidence.
  • 02:40:00 Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule debate the legitimacy of human rights, with Hijab claiming that they are a Western invention and Gule countering that they have a long history in the West. Gule argues that human rights are universal, and developed as a result of an intercultural process to protect the interests of all parties involved.
  • 02:45:00 In this YouTube video, two debaters discuss whether traditional Islam needs to be liberalized. Mohammed Hijab argues that it does, while Lars Gule disagrees. They both agree on the importance of human rights and the need for religion to provide justification for human rights, but they have different ideas about what kind of Islam is most compatible with those values.
  • 02:50:00 This YouTube video is a debate between Mohammed Hijab and Lars Gule on the topic of whether traditional Islam needs to be liberalized. Mohammed Hijab argues that the Islamic discourse puts more emphasis on responsibilities in rights because if everyone is selfish nothing will get done at the end of the day. Lars Gule argues that membership or fraternity to a community is prioritized over individual interests and that this is something which many liberal scholars would call "communitarian."
  • 02:55:00 The Islamic Network Islam net is working to liberalize traditional Islam, in order to save Iman, a woman who is dying. The organization is asking for donations to help establish a mosque and community center.

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