Summary of Controversial Questions to Prof.Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri (MH Podcast #6)

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In the video, Professor Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri discuss the challenges that the Muslim community will face in trying to navigate the complicated terrain of LGBTQ rights and religious freedom in the United States. Brown argues that the Muslim community should affirm LGBTQ rights, while ElMasri argues that the Muslim community should focus more on protecting religious rights.

00:00:00 The video features two guests, Dr. Sherry and Mosley, discussing controversial issues in the Muslim community, such as the LGBTQ rights movement and the legality of gay marriage. Jack outlines his position on the ratio idea, which he says he got from a discussion at a Muslim jurists association in 2016.
00:05:00 Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri discuss Islamic views on homosexuality and the idea of engagement with society. Brown argues that the two spheres are mutually exclusive, while ElMasri says that pluralism is the key to success.
00:10:00 In this video, Professor Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri discuss the challenges that the Muslim community will face in trying to navigate the complicated terrain of LGBTQ rights and religious freedom in the United States. Brown argues that the Muslim community should affirm LGBTQ rights, while ElMasri argues that the Muslim community should focus more on protecting religious rights.
00:15:00 This video discusses a controversy around an essay written by Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri, in which the authors argue that the United States should go in a more morally pluralistic direction. Some Muslims argue that this would go against Islamic teachings, while others argue that it is the law of the land and should be supported.
00:20:00 Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri discuss the Islamic view of marriage and whether or not the US government should recognize it as only between a man and woman. Brown argues that because of the benefits Muslims receive from upholding contracts, they are obligated to do so. ElMasri counters that protecting covenants does not mean Muslims must support laws that are against Islamic values.
00:25:00 The video discusses the idea of supporting the rights of LGBT, and Prof. Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri debate whether or not this can be done without compromising one's Muslim beliefs. Brown argues that if a law or contract is agreed to by both parties, and it is in accordance with the Sharia, then it should be supported. ElMasri disagrees, saying that if an issue is unrelated to Sharia, then it should not be supported.
00:30:00 The video discusses controversial questions to Professor Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri, including whether the US government should determine moral matters and which side of the Obergefell case Brown would come down on. Brown says that he agrees with ElMasri that the US government should not determine certain moral matters, but argues that taking the "gay marriage" side in the Obergefell decision would necessitate supporting secondary consequences such as "certain things that are hot" and "crazy". He also says that since the beginning of the Trump presidency, he has become closer to Shadee ElMasri's position on the issue.
00:35:00 The two speakers discuss how Muslims in the left-wing social justice alliance are compromising their positions as Muslims, making it difficult for them to advocate for the rokyo position.
00:40:00 The speaker discusses the recent controversy surrounding Islam and two academics who have been invited to speak at a local university. The speaker believes that the academics are engaging in a soft liberal war game instead of taking a more realistic approach to understanding the situation. He points out that if the St. James school case goes against the academics' predictions, it will be a disaster for Muslims in the United States.
00:45:00 The speaker argues that Muslims should not support LGBT rights movements, as doing so would be too revealing of their beliefs.
00:50:00 In this video, Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri discuss whether Muslims should participate in rallies or events that may be against their religious beliefs. Brown says that Muslims can commit to going to rallies, but they should not do things that are against their religious beliefs, such as dancing or participating in political speeches.
00:55:00 Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri discuss the modern state and its role in society. Brown argues that the government should not get involved in people's moral lives, while ElMasri argues that the government should provide law and order and protect society from invaders. They discuss the difference between supporting gay marriage and believing in a law that defines marriage as something in which gay people have a right to marry.

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In this video, Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri discuss controversial topics and offer advice for Muslims living in a modern world. Brown emphasizes the importance of humility and recognizing that others may have different views than one's own. ElMasri emphasizes the need to have a wide understanding of Islam and to be aware of the history of the religion.

01:00:00 This video discusses some controversies around Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri, including Brown's article "The Reality of the Walker Case" and ElMasri's response, "A Response to Radical Jack." Brown and ElMasri discuss how their work should be read, with Brown stressing that having a be honest approach is important. ElMasri argues that the controversies around Brown and his work constitute a "weak link" in his portfolio, and that he would like to see a follow-up article addressing the issues.
01:05:00 Professor Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri discuss controversial questions, with Brown noting that he removed a sentence from an article that discusses the possibility that God could forgive the sin of shook for a reason other than repentance. Moby disagrees with Brown's view, and argues that the article should have been clarified to make it clear that the sentence had been removed.
01:10:00 Professor Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri discuss controversial topics, including whether insulting the Prophet Muhammad should be illegal in Muslim countries. Brown regrets the way he phrased his comments, and ElMasri agrees that such a law should be enforced in all countries, not just the West.
01:15:00 Professor Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri discuss the issue of free speech and how it can be used to restrict speech that insults religious figures. Brown argues that this type of restriction is only justified when it is done to protect vulnerable minorities, such as Muslims. ElMasri counters that the same restrictions could be applied to any group of people, and that liberals should take a softer approach to free speech in order to protect everyone's rights.
01:20:00 The video discusses controversial questions to Prof.Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri, including whether Muslims should follow Western laws or Sharia, whether it is better to have laws that Muslims can follow or not infringe on their rights, and whether it is better to have a divided Muslim community.
01:25:00 The author discusses some of the feedback that he has received from people about a recent video that he uploaded discussing the controversial topic of insulting the Prophet Muhammad. He notes that while he believes that Muslims should be respectful of the Prophet, they should also be open to discussing these topics openly and honestly. He argues that because the issues around religious freedom and sexuality have changed so much over the past few years, it is important for Muslims to revisit these discussions and write about them in a clear and accessible way.
01:30:00 In this YouTube video, Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri discuss what they see as problems with the current state of bathroom policies across the United States. Brown specifically points out that he wants toilets that are "just like gender-neutral single-use single stall," and ElMasri agrees that this is a reasonable request. However, ElMasri argues that this is something that should be implemented in a way that is specific to each person's gender identity, rather than being gender-neutral. ElMasri also discusses the increased cultural fascism that he sees happening in South Africa, and how it is hardening Muslims and making them uncomfortable. Brown responds by noting that everyone benefits from open discussion, even those who may have expressed unfavorable opinions about certain topics.
01:35:00 The video discusses the controversies surrounding Prof. Jonathan Brown and Dr. Shadee ElMasri, and provides advice for Muslims who are struggling with doubts. Brown and ElMasri recommend reading and listening to reliable sources, and accusing oneself if one does not understand the matter at hand.
01:40:00 This video discusses two pieces of advice that Jonathan Brown, a professor of Islamic Studies and Shadee ElMasri, an expert on Islam and terrorism, offer for Muslims living in a modern world. Brown emphasizes the importance of humility and recognizing that others may have different views than one's own. ElMasri emphasizes the need to have a wide understanding of Islam and to be aware of the history of the religion. Both experts offer helpful advice for Muslims living in a modern world.
01:45:00 In this video, Jonathan Brown and Shadee ElMasri discuss controversial topics. Brown challenges ElMasri's views on Islam, and ElMasri challenges Brown's views on Christianity.