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In the "Lies, Politics and Democracy" video, Alyssa Farah Griffin interviews Mike Pence about his time as Vice President of the United States. Pence discusses his faith and how it guides him in his public service, his role in the administration, and his understanding of the deal between President Trump and himself.

00:00:00 The video interviews Alyssa Farah Griffin, communications director for the Freedom Caucus during the early days of the Trump campaign. She describes the initial reactions to Trump's candidacy within the Republican Party, and the eventual endorsement of Ted Cruz by the Freedom Caucus. She also describes the shift in support for Trump once he secured the nomination.
00:05:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin worked for Mike Pence as a communications staffer in the Trump administration. She resigned in December 2020, after realizing that Trump was a threat to democracy and would not be impeached. In her book "How Democracies Die," she predicts many of the events that took place during Trump's presidency, such as the Russian interference in the 2016 election and the undermining of American democracy.
00:10:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin interviews Vice President Mike Pence about his time as Vice President of the United States. Pence talks about his faith and how it guides him in his public service, his role in the administration, and his understanding of the deal between President Trump and himself.
00:15:00 Lies, Politics, and Democracy: Alyssa Farah Griffin interviews former vice president and current governor of Indiana Mike Pence about his time in the Trump White House and the difficulties he faced in trying to manage a team of loyal advisors. Pence stresses the importance of maintaining good relationships with those in positions of power and notes that he was more successful in this regard than Donald Trump.
00:20:00 The interviewee, Alyssa Farah Griffin, talks about her experience working for Mike Pence as press secretary, and her opinion of the former members of Congress' relationship with Trump. She also discusses her experience joining the White House communications team, and how her position changed when Mick Mulvaney was replaced as acting chief of staff. Griffin assesses that Mark Meadows would have made a good White House chief of staff, but was not the right person for the pivotal moment in American history due to the social justice protests and other unforeseen events.
00:25:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin, who served as the youngest Pentagon Press Secretary in history, talks about her time working for Vice President Pence and then accepting a role as the Department of Defense's Deputy Assistant to the Secretary of Defense. She describes the chaotic and unstructured environment she found when she arrived at the White House, and how her experience with the Trump administration has changed her perspective on politics.
00:30:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin discusses her time working in the Trump White House, specifically her thoughts on the president's response to the George Floyd murder and protests. She eventually resigns in June 2020 due to concerns over Trump's handling of the situation.
00:35:00 In this interview, Alyssa Farah Griffin describes her experience working for President Donald Trump and the events that led up to the infamous "Lies, Politics and Democracy" interview. Griffin also discusses the president's perceived relationship with the base and his understanding of democracy.
00:40:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin discusses her time working for President Donald Trump, and how his character traits led to the eventual downfall of his presidency. She also discusses how Republicans in Congress were afraid of Trump and failed to stand up to him when he needed it most.
00:45:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin tells the story of her time working for then-president Barack Obama, describing her disillusionment with the president's character and his willingness to put himself ahead of the country. Griffin says that she knew he likely lost the election the night of election, but that he started to buy into the false messages being sent to him by his campaign staff.
00:50:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin discusses her time working for the Trump campaign and her experiences with the aftermath of the 2016 election. She describes the atmosphere within the campaign and the efforts by senior White House officials to manipulate the Department of Justice and turn the results of the election in Trump's favor. The plan was ultimately rejected by officials, and Griffin speculates that this was done in an attempt to keep power within the Trump administration.
00:55:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin interviews someone who served in the Trump administration, and discusses the theory that Trump could have cheated in the 2016 election. She also discusses the role of Republicans in pushing this theory, and the difficulty of leading in difficult times.

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Alyssa Farah Griffin discusses her thoughts on the events of January 6th, when President Donald Trump claimed that millions of ballots were cast illegally and therefore the election was stolen from him. Griffin says that despite the political pressure, Mike Pence did the right thing by refusing to carry out Trump's orders to overturn the election. She also talks about the response of Republican leaders, including Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell, during the days leading up to January 6th.

01:00:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin, a 73-year-old woman who was not involved in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election, shares her thoughts on the events of January 6th, when President Donald Trump claimed that millions of ballots were cast illegally and therefore the election was stolen from him. Griffin says that despite the political pressure, Mike Pence did the right thing by refusing to carry out Trump's orders to overturn the election. She also talks about the response of Republican leaders, including Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell, during the days leading up to January 6th.
01:05:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin, who formerly served as the President of the United States of America, discusses the role of politics, democracy, and the role of a Ted Cruz during the Trump Presidency. Griffin also talks about her experiences on January 6th, the day of the Trump Inauguration, when violence erupted and many people were killed. Griffin argues that politicians on both sides of the aisle are more motivated by gaining approval from their constituents than doing the right thing, and that this is why many Americans died on January 6th.
01:10:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin talks about the election and how it was stolen by the Trump administration. She shares her experience trying to reach people in the White House and how they were all unwilling to condemn the Trump administration. Griffin also talks about how quickly things went back to normal after she spoke out.
01:15:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin, a former Trump supporter, discusses how she became disillusioned with the president and why she believes January 6th, the day after he was inaugurated, was when he solidified his place as the leader of the Republican party. She also speaks about the consequences of her actions and how the current political rhetoric has consequences for national security.
01:20:00 During the interview, Alyssa Farah Griffin discusses the significance of the Republican party's current state and the implications of a potential re-election of Donald Trump. She notes that while Trump has made some positive policy achievements, his overall approach and rhetoric is destructive to American democracy. She advises the party to abandon Trump and focus on promoting leaders and policies they believe in, rather than trying to win over Trump's supporters.
01:25:00 Alyssa Farah Griffin discusses the fear she's feeling for her safety and the increased climate of rhetoric directed at her and other public officials. She also mentions that some members of Congress have told her they are afraid for their safety.